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Thursday, 2 October 2014

Bending the truth - what Green groups want you to think - The A27 Arundel By-Pass

There is a famous quote
A27 chaos caused by lack of a by-pass.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it".

The meeting arranged by the Arundel branch of SCATE  (South Coast alliance for Transport and the Environment a pan Sussex organisation with links to various green activists ) was full and many locals could not gain access, a good proportion of the people who did were not local.

I have been asked to make clear by Kay Wagland that this was arranged by the Arundel Branch of Skate, but I see SKATE as a Trojan horse for the Green party and it's efforts to stop a by-pass at any cost.

But we have been here before, in 1992 the bypass was weeks from being built and was stopped in it's tracks by environmental groups, then again in 2003 Swampy was up a tree and Alister Darling used the environment as an excuse to stop the by-pass then.  The greens all disappeared back to where they came from, as most of them are not local and are not representative leaving us locals to deal with the consequences, eg traffic pollution, traffic jams, rat running vehicles, economic stagnation and worries about whether our ambulances can get us to hospital in time.. 

We are now in 2014 and there is a real chance that the long suffering folk of Arundel and the surrounding villages will get their by-pass, but again the Greens are mustering their campaign purporting to be a groundswell of local support.

In my previous article in Sussex Local I attacked their motives, most of the traffic is not local as they purport, they are using spurious scare stories that the bypass will be an eyesore on stilts, what poppycock, if they did that the cost would be astronomical. Also they say we should be looking at other solutions,  I believe we should be encouraging more cycling, better public bus transport, better rail links, free parking at stations and encouraging children to walk to school, but I also think we need a by-pass.

Locals have come to me as local Councillor and elected representative complaining that they were not allowed in to the meeting due to the number of people who wanted to attend, many of the Green activists were already ensconced and had seats, leaving many people who want the By-Pass to be left outside,

I still maintain that 95% of the population of my ward are for the bypass, the problem is that the Greens are very good at puffing up their image and making false statements.

I am angry that these people are not local and are not representative, yes we want a debate, but we want that debate with locals not Greens telling what we should think and how we should live.

I had one email against the by-pass complaining that I should not be supporting a By-pass, I had to point out that I have been elected 3 times on that promise of campaigning for a A27 By-pass using the Pink Blue route, I was elected these people were not.

Do not let these people tell you what to think, get the facts and come to your own conclusions, but be careful of the false information being circulated by them. Please make your views known, lets get a huge noise in support of the by-pass and send the greens packing.

By the way the quote at the beginning of the article was by Joseph Goebbels

7 comments:

  1. I think one should attend said public meeting, you know, as a local, before one comments as to whether this was for the locals or not. Many local business owners and residents were in attendance but your absence was noted.

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  2. FYI South Coast Alliance for Transport and the Environment is shortened to the acronym SCATE not SKATE

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  3. This is not a platform to be discussing your ill disguised politics and likening green activists to Joseph Goebbels, it is in extremely poor taste. I have taken a screenshot and will be a lodging a formal complaint to Nick Herbert.

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  4. I am a resident and business owner in Arundel. I am also a member of the Arundel branch of SCATE. I joined the group in order to find out more about the transport issues of Arundel and to become more informed about the proposed Bypass and it's possible routes. At no time at any of the meetings have I been asked to declare my personal political preference, nor have I been asked to support any political party. It was decided at one such meeting that other residents of the Town might welcome the opportunity to learn more about the transport issues and so it was agreed that we would see if the Town Hall would be available. I personally helped to hand-deliver flyers to the residents so that as many as possible could attend should they wish to. Many more people than anticipated wanted to attend, and the only restriction to entrance was to adhere to the fire regulations of the building. There was no selection based on individuals political views, nor was there any intention to limit local attendance. I personally object to being branded a liar and that I seek to deceive or misinform anybody. I also feel disgusted that Cllr Dendle should appropriate the words of a chief member of the Third Reich and Nazi party in relation to this matter. As an elected official he surely has a duty to choose his words and references with greater caution and respect, I await his apology

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  5. Dear Mr Dendle,

    In response to your comment above 2/10/2014

    I am deeply disappointed and also shocked at your misinformed and disingenuous comment.
    As a long-time "local" (I note your purported claim to the word) resident of Arundel ( Howard Road since 1985) and as someone who has been grateful to the work done by SCATE to promote democratic discourse in the town, I went to the meeting at the Town Hall in order to gain more information and to hear various views about the proposed By-Pass. I did not arrive till 7 p.m. by which time the meeting was full.This was, agreed, very unfortunate, as the Hall will only take 85 persons and there was far more interest than anticipated. I spoke to a Council worker who was monitoring access and numbers and there was absolutely no attempt by any one, or group, to commandeer the meeting. There was clearly a wide variety of opinions both “for”, “against” and “not sure/open” who were stranded in the entrance area. It was not just a case of those who were “against” who were denied access as you imply. Added to that, there was an attempt to gain alternative access to the Church so that all of the meeting could be switched to there, which does not suggest a "closed" attitude at all.
    I understand that invites had gone out to a wide variety of speakers e.g Nick Herbert and Town Councillors who were conspicuous, as were you, by their absence.
    On a point of fact, I seem to remember that the by-pass was not "stopped in its tracks by environmental groups" at all, but rather, it was put on the back-burners as a result of Government cut-backs in spending. Please could you check your information before you, as you yourself state,: "use spurious scare stories" to promote support. Also, as a politician, I think you might be rather aware of using statistics as "facts" when they have no basis...where is your hard evidence for your claim that : "95% of the population of my ward are for the by-pass"...? Please, please do not make those sorts of false claims...in fact your extremely insensitive opening quote about lies could apply to yourself I believe...?
    I find your letter not only misinformed, but also offensive and rude. I fully support the response of the "resident and business owner in Arundel" on your site and would also like an apology to be addressed by yourself to KayWagland, who you have mentioned by name, and the SCATE group. All of those in SCATE I have met are local residents committed to democratic accountability.
    I look forward to your response,
    Yours Sincerely,


    Andrew Davies

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  6. Dear Mr Davies, Thank you for your comments I appreciate you taking the time to contact me,

    Firstly I have been and elected as a District Councillor for Arundel since 2003, I was elected on a mandate of campaigning for an Arundel By-Pass using the Pink Blue route, since 2003 in all the numerous meetings involving local councils, Officers, Councillors MP's and Ministers I have rarely heard a dissenting voice for provision of a By-Pass for Arundel.

    What people don't realise when they are weighing up the pluses and minuses' is that North Littlehampton Development will be starting in the next year or so with
    1750 houses, commercial development, hotels, leisure facilities, new road linking crossbush with bridge over railway and the lyminster bypass,

    All that will feed into the Crossbush junction and be complete by 2020.

    SCATE are using selective quotes. On their web site from the SoCoMMS Report , and that they published all (or at least most) of the SoCoMMS chapters on their site.

    The missing one is the Arundel chapter – that’s because SoCoMMS recommended an A27 Bypass at Arundel on the pink/blue route!

    The latter recommendation is being avoided to create a false impression

    I apologise for using the quote that I used, I also apologise to Kay if & other campaigners if I have caused offence The quote at the beginning of the blog was valid, I just wish now I had not attributed to the person who uttered the words as that has become the story in many peoples minds,

    But there is a concerted campaign to mislead by outside groups supported by some local activists,

    I want an open and transparent debate by locals, not by self appointed defenders of the environment from Brighton, the pink blue route does not go through ancient woodland another false fact put around by anti By-Pass protesters.

    If we do not build a bypass then the extra economic activity locally will strangle our existing

    I was not invited to Mondays meeting, I regret not being able to attend, I was coming back from London and then attending an event at the Castle for Arundel.org, but I could have made it at a push, but saw the numbers outside the Town Hall and proceeded on to the meeting at the Castle

    I hope that there will be a meeting organised by the Town Council at a bigger event so a fair representation of local opinion can be voiced,

    I think there should be a fair representation of all the facts from all groups, then there can be an open and transparent debate,

    Yours Sincerely
    Cllr. Paul Dendle

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